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Like most people, Pod Save America cohost Tommy Vietor thought foreign policy was boring and complicated until he got the education of a lifetime working for President Obama's National Security Council. It was a crash course that taught him two things: anyone can understand these issues, and we all have an obligation to try. That's why he started Pod Save the World—a weekly podcast that breaks down international news and foreign policy developments, but doesn't feel like homework. Each week, he and former deputy national security advisor and co-host Ben Rhodes walk you through the latest developments with a variety of experts and take you behind the scenes of big decisions with the people who were there. Count on hearing stories from the White House Situation Room, funny anecdotes, and maybe a few F bombs along the way.

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Pod Save the World Season 2023 Air Dates


S2023E01 - New year, old problems Air Date: 04 January 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben recap all of the world news you missed over the holidays, including the latest on the war in Ukraine, Zelensky's visit to DC, Bibi Netanyahu's new government, the end of China's zero-Covid policy, the new ban from the Taliban against Afghan women, and Bolsonaro's hideout in Florida.


S2023E02 - Brazil's January 6th Air Date: 11 January 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben discuss the riots in Brazil, Biden's trip to Mexico and immigration policy, what a Republican House majority means for defense spending, why you should care about Nigeria's next election, Iran sentencing protesters to death, Mike Pompeo's sad book, and Prince Harry letting it rip on the Royal family. Then Ben is joined by the cast of the documentary "Navalny" to discuss Alexei Navalny's poisoning, his imprisonment, and Putin's murderous reign.


S2023E03 - How to handle the Biden docs Air Date: 18 January 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben discuss the Davos summit, the latest round of Biden documents, the U.K. blocking a Scottish law that would make gender change easier, more Russian attacks in Ukraine, the new climate spotlight on the UAE, protests in Israel, China's population on the decline, and Italy's biggest mob boss finally getting caught.  Then, Tommy is joined by The New York Times Brazil bureau chief Jack Nicas to discuss the fallout from the riots, the comparison to January 6th, and what it all means for Brazil's new president Lula.


S2023E04 - Tanks for Nothing Air Date: 25 January 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben discuss a corruption scandal in Ukraine, the debate over sending tanks to Kyiv, Mike Pence gets in on the classified hoarding game, the worst parts of Mike Pompeo's trash new book, protests in France, Jacinda Ardern's legacy, Kenneth Roth's Harvard saga, and the State Department's war on fonts. Then, Ben is joined by Olesya Vartanyan, a senior analyst at the International Crisis group to talk about the escalating Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict.


S2023E05 - Israel attacks Iran Air Date: 01 February 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about an Israeli drone attack in Iran, Tony Blinken's meeting with Bibi Netanyahu, Ukraine's requests for F-16 fighter jets, Putin's bizarre threat towards Boris Johnson, the latest on Biden's documents, deadly protests in Peru, Bolsonaro's request for a US visa, and the Saudi LIV tour's deal with Trump. Then, Tommy is joined by Save the Children CEO Janti Soeripto to talk about her nine meetings with the Taliban last week in response to the education bans on women and children in Afghanistan.


S2023E06 - InflateGate: Biden vs Balloon Air Date: 08 February 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about Balloon-gate, Biden's State of the Union address, the latest in Ukraine, the deadly earthquake in Turkey and Syria and how to help, Pope Francis denouncing anti-gay laws, and gang violence in Haiti. Then, Ben talks with Rep. Ilhan Omar about her recent removal from the House Foreign Affairs Committee and the message it sends globally.


S2023E07 - Alien Balloon Invastion Air Date: 15 February 2023 12:00 -

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Ben and Tommy talk about Israeli PM Bibi Netanyahu's attack on Israel's judicial system, the ongoing US war against Chinese balloons and UFOs, Kim Jong Un's likely successor, Saudi influence peddling, the latest in Ukraine as we approach the one year anniversary of Russia's invasion, potential Cuba policy changes, India's Prime Minister Modi raiding the BBC, and Melania Trump's unexpected visit to the Situation Room. Then Tommy talks to USAID Disaster Response Lead Stephen Allen who is on the ground in Turkey about the earthquake devastation and how people can help.


S2023E08 - Biden goes to Ukraine Air Date: 22 February 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben discuss Biden's surprise trip to Ukraine, Putin's decision to suspend participation in the New START treaty, the administration's warnings against providing military support to Russia, the latest on spy balloons, Scotland's First Minister resigns, near weapons-grade uranium found in Iran, Israeli hackers exposed for meddling in dozens of elections, another deadly earthquake in Turkey and Syria, Mike Pompeo's embarrassing "best seller", and AI bots going off the rails. Then, Ben talks with Rep. Ro Khanna about his trip to Taiwan, China's relationship with the United States, and how to advance progressive politics abroad.


S2023E09 - One year of war in Ukraine Air Date: 24 February 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben look back on a year of war in Ukraine and discuss what people got wrong, lessons learned, and where things stand today. Then, Ben and Tommy talk to reporters and Ukrainians about the war including FT reporter and longtime Ukraine resident Christopher Miller, 18-year old Ukrainian student and artist Assia Vlasenko who escaped Ukraine after 6 months of occupation, Research Director at the European Expert Association Maria Avdeeva who has been documenting Russian war crimes, and FT reporter and Putin expert Max Seddon.


S2023E10 - Will China arm Putin? Air Date: 01 March 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben discuss changes to Mexico's electoral system, the botched presidential election in Nigeria, Jill Biden's trip to Africa, new intelligence about the covid lab leak theory, a Brexit breakthrough, more detail on China potentially selling arms to Russia and Europe's pitch for a potential defense pact and peace deal, the World Bank, and Biden's immigration policy. Then Tommy is joined by Israel's Labor Party Leader Merav Michaeli to discuss recent violence the region, Netanyahu's proposed judicial changes, and the fate of Israeli politics with Netanyahu at the helm.


S2023E11 - Who is poisoning girls in Iran? Air Date: 08 March 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben discuss the suspected poisoning of Iranian schoolgirls, new intel on Havana syndrome, the case for dismantling the DHS, potential Chinese election interference in Canada, South Korea's plan to end their forced labor dispute with Japan, the deadly battle for Bakhmut in Ukraine, the worlds greatest wine heist in Spain, and another questionable summit in the UAE. Then, US Deputy Treasury Secretary Wally Adeyemo joins Ben in the studio to discuss sanctions and their role in the Russia-Ukraine war.


S2023E12 - China's Iran Deal Air Date: 15 March 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about China brokering a deal between Saudi Arabia and Iran, Saudi Arabia's wish list to "normalize" relations with Israel, protests of Netanyahu's changes to Israel's judicial system, the BBC, soccer and free speech, new reports about who sabotaged the Nord Steam gas pipeline, the president of Mexico's bizarre press conference, the momentum behind banning TikTok, and Canada's stance on flipping the bird. Then, Tommy interviews Welcome.US CEO Nazanin Ash about the global refugee crisis and how ordinary citizens can help.


S2023E13 - 20 years after the invasion of Iraq Air Date: 17 March 2023 12:00 -

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Ben and Tommy record a bonus episode to mark the 20-year anniversary of the US invasion of Iraq to try and answer the question: how did the Iraq war change America and the world? They're joined by journalist and Iraq war supporter turned vocal opponent Peter Beinart, and Congressman and Iraq war veteran Ruben Gallego.


S2023E14 - Is prosecuting presidents a good idea? Air Date: 22 March 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben are joined by Crooked contributor Max Fisher for a segment to discuss a possible Trump indictment and how common presidential prosecutions are around the world. Then Ben and Tommy cover Chinese President Xi Jinping's trip to Moscow, the retirement age in France, the global implications of the SVB collapse, new reporting on Ron DeSantis and his involvement in Guantanamo Bay, and the latest coronavirus origin theory. Then Tommy is joined by Ethiopian journalist and activist Meaza Mohammed to discuss Ethiopia's ongoing civil war and the lack of freedom of the press.


S2023E15 - Netanyahu backs down Air Date: 29 March 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about protests in Israel and Netanyahu's persistent attack on Israel's democracy, a drone strike in Syria, reignited fears of a nuclear attack from Putin, a new deal between Biden and Canadian PM Trudeau, VP Harris' visit to Africa, North Korea's "nuclear tsunami", French President Macron's expensive watch, and Lebanon entering the daylight savings debate. Then, Ben is joined by China expert Evan Medeiros to talk about a potential US TikTok ban, Xi's meeting with Putin, and where US relations with China stand today.


S2023E16 - The world watches Trump's arrest Air Date: 05 April 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about Donald Trump's historic arrest and arraignment, Finland PM Sanna Marin's election loss, Taiwan's president visits America, a potential interim Iran nuclear deal, the Washington Post's tone deaf op-ed on veterans rights, the arrest of an American journalist in Russia, new propaganda tactics from Russian state media, Montenegro's long-standing president loses his re-election bid, more shady business dealings between Jared Kushner and Gulf states, and Mussolini's granddaughter chugs wine in protest.


S2023E17 - The Pentagon documents leak Air Date: 12 April 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben discuss the massive leak of US intelligence documents and the potential global implications, a new White House report on what went wrong with the US withdrawal from Afghanistan, the potential repeal of the Iraq war authorization for use of military force, President Macron's controversial visit to China, Biden's visit to Ireland, Israeli forces attacking worshippers inside the al-Aqsa Mosque, Lionel Messi's potential move to Saudi Arabia, and Twitter's idiotic understanding of state-run media. Then, Ben is joined by New York Times international correspondent Valerie Hopkins to discuss the imprisonment of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich and the dangers facing journalists and critics of Putin in Russia today.


S2023E18 - 21-year-old Pentagon leaker exposed Air Date: 19 April 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about the latest news about the Pentagon leaks and leaker, and what it tells us about the effectiveness of the security clearance process. Then Ben and Tommy discuss Chinese agents harassing dissidents in the US, the war in Sudan, extrajudicial violence in India on live television, Lula's message about the rise of far-right extremists, Trump's interview on Tucker Carlson, and a shakeup in the South Korean government stemming from K-pop and Lady Gaga. Then Tommy interviews Washington Post reporter Shane Harris about his reporting on the leaked documents and what it could mean for national security going forward.


S2023E19 - Crisis in Sudan Air Date: 26 April 2023 12:00 -

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Ben and Tommy talk about the evacuation of American employees from Sudan, expectations for Ukraine's spring military offensive and Ron DeSantis's trip abroad. Then they cover new intelligence about Russian influence in Africa and the ISIS threat in Afghanistan, Chile's plans to nationalize its lithium industry, how former British PM Boris Johnson nearly gave Queen Elizabeth covid, and how the war on beer spread to Europe. Then Ben interviews Reuter's Sudan and Egypt Correspondent Nafisa Eltahir about what's behind the conflict in Sudan and the experiences of people left in Khartom.


S2023E20 - The Pope's peace talks Air Date: 03 May 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about the ongoing crisis in Sudan, the Pope's visit to Hungary, the upcoming coronation of King Charles and Prince Harry's lawsuits against Rupert Murdoch. Then Ben and Tommy discuss the approaching elections in Turkey, the UAE's influence in the US, the South Korean President's karaoke moment at the White House and Ron DeSantis's embarrassing trip abroad. Then Tommy talks to Deputy National Security Advisor for International Economics Mike Pyle on securing technological advances domestically, investments in green energy and the need for a unified approach to China with US allies.


S2023E21 - Israel on the Brink Air Date: 05 May 2023 12:00 -

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Ben and Tommy are joined by Max Fisher for a special episode on the roots of the judicial crisis in Israel that has brought millions of protestors out into the streets and still threatens to tear the country apart. They dig into the unresolved constitutional questions from Israel's founding, why Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu is a uniquely dangerous figure, and how the US-Israel relationship has pushed Israel to the far-right.


S2023E22 - Defining Victory for Ukraine Air Date: 10 May 2023 12:00 -

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Ben and Tommy talk about Iran using Syrian earthquake aid to smuggle weapons, Syria being readmitted to the Arab League, the drone strikes on the Kremlin, Title 42 and Biden's immigration policy, the arrest of Pakistan's former prime minister Imran Khan, gun control in Serbia, the treatment of women in the UAE and some wild stories out of Australia. Then Ben interviews The Atlantic's Editor-in-Chief Jeffrey Goldberg about defining victory in Ukraine.


S2023E23 - Zelensky's Secret War Plan Air Date: 17 May 2023 12:00 -

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On today's episode, Max Fisher and Tommy discuss reports that a close Putin ally betrayed the Russian military and that President Zelensky secretly proposed bombing Russia, why elections in Turkey and Thailand could be the most important of this year, the United States' war of words with South Africa, Senator Tommy Tuberville's bizarre defense of white nationalists, updates on immigration, Gaza, and US-China relations, and five stories that will make you feel hopeful.


S2023E24 - The War Goes to Russia Air Date: 24 May 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about President Zelensky's travel to the Arab League and G7 summits, Biden's policy change on training Ukrainian pilots to fly F-16s, mysterious attacks inside Russia and outcomes from the G-7 summit. They also discuss the foreign policy fallout from Biden cutting his foreign trip short, how the Air Force failed to stop the Discord leaker, a leadership change in Iran, another tragic mistaken Pentagon drone strike mistake, an AI generated attack on the Pentagon and Dubai's $5 billion man-made moon. Then Ben talks to Mark Malloch-Brown, president of Open Society Foundations, the biggest global foundation promoting human rights, about the effect authoritarian governments have on their efforts and the debt crisis that many countries are facing.


S2023E25 - Lindsey Graham's Russian Arrest Warrant Air Date: 31 May 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about an anti-LGBTQ law in Uganda, violent protests in Kosovo and more reports on Trump's handling of classified documents. They also discuss US-China relations, Elon Musk's visit to China, heavy attacks in Kyiv, drone strikes in Moscow, Russia's arrest warrant for Lindsey Graham, a new law in Poland cracking down on Russian political interference and Brazilian President Lula Da Silva's relationship with Venezuelan leader Nicolás Maduro. Then Tommy talks to Turkish journalist and author Ece Temelkuran about the election in Turkey and the erosion of democracy. For all the Succession fans out there, spoiler alert! Ben and Tommy talk about the series finale at the end of the episode. You've been warned!


S2023E26 - Did Ukraine bomb the Nord Stream pipeline? Air Date: 07 June 2023 12:00 -

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Ben and Tommy talk about a blockbuster report that Ukraine bombed the Nordstream natural gas pipelines, the bombing of a dam in Ukraine, accountability for the assassination of Haiti's president, CIA Director Bill Burns goes to China, Saudi Arabia and sportswashing, Henry Kissinger's human rights record and accountability in Washington, Trump's classified documents woes, media restrictions in Pakistan, nukes in Iran, reports that school girls were poisoned in Afghanistan, and British PM Rishi Sunak goes to a baseball game. Then Ben talks with Tim Mak, founder of The Counteroffensive and a Crooked Contributor, about life in Ukraine and the coming counteroffensive.


S2023E27 - How's Trump's Mar-a-lago Docs Endanger National Security Air Date: 14 June 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about the national security implications of Trump's Mar-a-Lago document indictment, China's eavesdropping base in Cuba, Ukraine's military counteroffensive and critics of US policy, USAID's suspension of food aid to Ethiopia following an investigation into theft, how Sudan's civil war is getting worse, how crypto currency is funding North Korea's ballistic missile programs, the death of former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, protests in Senegal and executions in Iran. Then Ben talks to friend of the pod David Lammy, Britain's Shadow Secretary of State, about Boris Johnson's resignation from parliament and the arrest of Scotland's former leader Nicola Sturgeon.


S2023E28 - Tony Blinken goes to China Air Date: 21 June 2023 12:00 -

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Today's episode covers: Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to the US, Trump's interview on Fox News about the Mar-a-Lago document indictment, new details about Trump's real estate deal with the Saudis in Oman, Secretary of State Tony Blinken's visit to China, how Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu is still meddling with Israel's courts and inflaming relations with the US, the latest from Ukraine, reports that Russia tried to assassinate a CIA informant on US soil, Facebook's stifling of free speech in Vietnam, and why it's been a rough week for Boris Johnson and Liz Truss.


S2023E29 - A Russian Coup Against Putin? (Bonus Pod) Air Date: 24 June 2023 12:00 -

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Ben and Tommy talk about the extraordinary failed coup attempt against Vladimir Putin by Yevgeny Prigozhin and the Wagner mercenary group in Russia. They cover the infighting that got Russia to this point, what it means for Putin's image and power, the amnesty deal that ended the insurrection and why Belarus was involved, and what it's like at the White House when a crisis like this happens.


S2023E30 - Trump's Self-incriminating Audio Air Date: 28 June 2023 12:00 -

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Ben and Tommy talk about the fallout from Wagner Group's aborted mutiny in Russia, the status of Ukraine's counteroffensive, new audio of Trump knowingly leaking classified information, why supporters of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi are harassing a White House reporter, the fallout from Biden calling Chinese President Xi Jinping a dictator, a horrific tragedy that killed hundreds of migrants near Greece and right-wing politics, Israeli PM Bibi Netanyahu on trial for corruption, violence in the West Bank, and Republican presidential candidate Francis Suarez fails a foreign policy pop quiz. Then Tommy talks to Eben Novy-Williams, a sports business reporter at Sportico, about foreign investment in US sports teams and human rights.


S2023E31 - NATO Grows on Russia's Borders Air Date: 12 July 2023 12:00 -

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Max Fisher joins Ben to discuss the ever-weirder Prigozhin circus, the last-second drama over bringing Sweden into NATO, whether Ukraine should join, the U.S. sending controversial cluster bombs to Ukraine, a seismic shift in European politics and what it means for the future of the far-right, an American reckoning over Israel following the raid in Jenin, an attempt to deescalate China, and why Vietnam banned the new Barbie movie. Then Ben talks to Ambassador Julianne Smith, U.S. Permanent Representative to NATO, about Ukraine and Sweden's NATO membership bid and her work in Vilnius this week.


S2023E32 - Ukraine and the 2024 Presidential Campaign Air Date: 19 July 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about Russia pulling out of a vital grain initiative with Ukraine, 2024 Republican primary candidate views on Ukraine, Trump and Taiwan, the culture war amendments to the National Defense Authorization Act, John Kerry's visit to China and climate change, the strange disappearance of China's foreign minister, renewed fears of a second genocide in Darfur, the EU's deal with Tunisia to curb migration, Iran's morality police are back, and how a typo caused a massive military security leak. Then Tommy talks to Amir Tibon, the diplomatic correspondent for Haaretz Newspaper, about Biden inviting Israel PM Bibi Netanyahu to Washington as Bibi is trying to gut the Israeli supreme court.


S2023E33 - Israel's Judicial Coup, and Samantha Power on Ukraine Air Date: 26 July 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about the gutting of Israel's judicial system, and the (lack of) response from the US. They also discuss good-ish news from the elections in Spain, a US soldier who fled to North Korea, Putin's crackdown on a far-right blogger, how Ron DeSantis and Senator Tommy Tuberville are hurting military recruiting, the UK's fight with Apple, Saudi Arabia's $1.1 billion soccer star, and doggie DNA passports in France. Then Ben talks to best friend of the pod Samantha Power, administrator of the US Agency for International Development about her recent visit to Ukraine, and the impacts of Russia pulling out of a vital grain initiative.


S2023E34 - Russian War Crimes and a Coup in Niger Air Date: 02 August 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about a coup in Niger, progress on the Ukrainian counteroffensive, drone attacks on Moscow, Yevgeny Prigozhin attends a summit of African leaders in Russia, prospects for a US-Saudi Arabia-Israel diplomatic deal, the eroding democratic process in Thailand, and an ISIS attack in Pakistan. They also discuss how to inspire action on climate change. Then Tommy talks to Ambassador-At-Large For Global Criminal Justice Beth Van Schaack about prosecuting Russian war crimes.


S2023E35 - Ukraine Sea Drones and Peace Talks Air Date: 09 August 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about the global response to the coup in Niger, Ukraine's sea drone attacks and peace talks in Saudi Arabia, new polling about approval Biden's foreign policy and support for Ukraine, a quick look at some foreign policy debates in the 2024 GOP primary, and reports that US Marines will defend ships in the Persian gulf. Then updates from Colombia, Pakistan, ISIS, Chinese information operations, crypto scams, and why Rishi Sunak is the Prime Minister of Soul Cycle. Then Crooked Contributor Max Fisher joins to talk about the health of democracy around the world.


S2023E36 - Tripping Balls with Janet Yellen Air Date: 16 August 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about a US hostage deal with Iran, a far-right frontrunner in the Argentina presidential election, a presidential candidate murdered in Ecuador, updates on the coup in Niger, and aid to Sudan. They also discuss Vivek Ramaswamy's bizarre views on Taiwan, President Biden's critical comments about China's economy, Biden's meeting with the presidents of South Korea and Japan at Camp David, the latest from Ukraine, Russia's deteriorating economy and Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen's magic mushroom meal. Then Ben talks to Bobi Wine, a member of parliament in Uganda, a former pop-star and opposition leader about his presidential challenge to long-time authoritarian Uganda leader Yoweri Museveni. His wife, Barbie Kyagulanyi also joined the pod to discuss the National Geographic documentary about their campaign, Bobi Wine: The People's President.


S2023E37 - Has Ukraine's counteroffensive stalled? Air Date: 23 August 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about negative headlines surrounding Ukraine's counteroffensive, Russian warlord Yevgeny Prigozhin's re-emergence in Africa, a Human Rights Watch Report about Saudi Arabia's horrendous abuse of Ethiopian migrants, a fun twist in the Mar-a-Lago documents case, and rare good news for climate change from voters rejecting oil drilling in Ecuador and a drop in deforestation in Brazil. They also discuss Canada's unprecedented wildfires, Ecuador's election runoff a week after the assassination of a presidential candidate, the rise of a far-right political party in Germany, GOP candidate Vivek Ramaswamy's remarks on America's commitment to Israel, and the crash of a Russian lunar probe. Then Tommy is joined by Kurt Campbell, President Biden's Coordinator for Indo-Pacific Affairs, to break down the historic summit at Camp David the US hosted between Japan and South Korea's leaders.


S2023E38 - Spain's #MeToo moment? Air Date: 30 August 2023 12:00 -

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Ben and Tommy talk about the fallout after Spain's head soccer official kissed star player Jennifer Hermoso, BRICS announcing the addition of six countries, Donald Trump's musings on the Panama Canal, and a report that the US was aware of Saudi Arabia's torture and killing of African migrants. They also discuss France's ban on students wearing the Abaya in schools, former French president Nicolas Sarkozy's memoir and defense of Russia, Zimbabwe's disputed election, far right Israeli politician Ben-Gvir's racist statement, and India's lunar landing. Then Ben is joined by Joshua Yaffa, contributing writer for The New Yorker, to discuss his profile of Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin and what his rise and fall tell us about Russia.


S2023E39 - Kim Jong Un and Putin's Budding Bromance Air Date: 06 September 2023 12:00 -

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Ben and guest host Max Fisher talk about the latest headlines on the Russia/Ukraine war, including Putin's refusal to sign a new grain deal with Turkey's Erdogan, a rumored visit by Kim Jong Un, more drones in Russian airspace, and a rise in pro-Russian disinformation in Europe. They also discuss the rise in military coups in Africa, the G20 in India, including calls for India to change its name, tensions with China, Biden's potential meeting with MBS, and upcoming trip to Vietnam. Then, they dig into China's economic slowdown. Finally, Ben is joined by Janti Soeripto, President and CEO of Save the Children, to discuss the organization's work in Ukraine and how children in the country are gearing up to go back to school despite the conflict.


S2023E40 - Secretary of State Anthony Blinken Air Date: 13 September 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about Kim Jong Un's trip to meet with Vladimir Putin, Viktor Bout's entrance into local Russian politics, Armenia's diplomatic shift away from Russia, and a positive development in Nagorno-Kabarakh region. They also dig into an escalation into the economic war between the US and China, allegations about an undercover Chinese spy in the UK parliament, Biden's trip the Vietnam and political value of foreign trips, Mexico's future female president, the resignation of Spain's head soccer official, a Florida man trying to cross the Atlantic in a hamster wheel and a red wine flood. Then US Secretary of State Antony Blinken joins to discuss the war in Ukraine, the G20, a reported Saudi Arabia-Israel normalization deal and more.


S2023E41 - Canada Accuses India of Assassination Air Date: 20 September 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's accusation that India may have been behind the murder of a Sikh Canadian citizen, the prisoner swap between the U.S. and Iran, the one-year anniversary of Mahsa Amini's death, the United Nations General Assembly and lack of world leaders in attendance, and the latest updates on Russia/Ukraine, including rumors of Ramzan Kadyrov's death. They also discuss Benjamin Netanyahu's trip to the US, China's disappearing public officials, stories about increasing espionage activities between the US and China, a missing F-35, and an Australian man who was fined for taking his pet Python surfing. Then Tommy speaks with Rory Stewart, former British politician and author of the new book, "How Not To Be A Politician".


S2023E42 - Don't Clap for Nazis Air Date: 27 September 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about the foreign policy implications of Senator Menendez's corruption charges, the Biden administration's move to grant temporary protected status to Venezuelan migrants and the role of US sanctions in fueling migration, and updates from Ukraine, including attacks on Russia's Black Sea fleet and Ukraine's grain supplies. They also discuss Ron DeSantis's time working at Guantanamo Bay, reports that the U.S. supplied Canada with intelligence about the assassination of a Sikh separatist on Canadian soil, a vetting disaster at the Canadian parliament, Saudi Crown prince Mohammed bin Salman's Fox News interview, and Rahm Emanuel's shit posting. Then Ben speaks with Olesya Vartanyan, the Crisis Group's Senior Analyst for the Caucasus Region, about Azerbaijan's seizure of Nagorno-Karabakh and the tens of thousands of ethnic Armenians now fleeing their homes.


S2023E43 - Will Republicans Kill Support for Ukraine? Air Date: 04 October 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about the waning support for financing the war in Ukraine, both in the US Congress and in Europe, Elon Musk's visit to the southern border, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Mark Milley responds to Trump's threats, Trump's former Chief of Staff John Kelly tells CNN about Trump's disrespect towards veterans, the UN authorizes a mission to Haiti, Canada and India continue their war of words, and the end of "Panda Diplomacy." Then Tommy speaks with Sue Mi Terry, a former CIA officer and producer of the documentary "Beyond Utopia" that profiles the harrowing reality of life in North Korea and the lengths people will go to escape it. The documentary will be in theaters at the end of October.


S2023E44 - What's next for Israel and Gaza? Air Date: 11 October 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about the latest from Israel and Gaza, including the Netanyahu government's policy and intelligence failures, the devastating toll on civilians in Israel and Gaza, questions about hostages and reports that Israel may launch a ground offensive into Gaza. They also cover the varied international response to the attack, the history of Hamas, and conflicting reports about Iranian culpability. Then Ben talks to Gregg Carlstrom, the Middle East correspondent for The Economist, about political dynamics within Israel, the timing of the attack, and the unprecedented nature of this developing conflict.


S2023E45 - Breaking: Israel Tells Civilians in Gaza to Evacuate Air Date: 13 October 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about the developing situation in Gaza where 1.1 million people have been told to evacuate northern Gaza in advance of an anticipated ground invasion by Israel. Two people on the ground in Gaza explain the logistical obstacles to evacuation and why many civilians have refused to leave. Then Ben and Tommy discuss how Republicans are losing their minds talking about Israel, pro-Palestine protests around the world, growing anger towards the Netanyahu government, and they take questions from the Pod Save the world Discord channel.


S2023E46 - Biden Heads to Israel Air Date: 18 October 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about the breaking news of an airstrike hitting a hospital in Gaza, killing hundreds of staff, patients, and civilians. They also discuss Biden's upcoming visit to Israel and negotiations around hostage rescue and aid packages, Secretary of State Antony Blinken's meetings with regional leaders and resistance to taking in Palestinian refugees, new reports on Hamas' lengthy, detailed planning for the attack on Israel, and thoughts on alternatives to a massive Israeli military response. Then they cover Senator Bob Menendez being charged as a foreign agent, hopeful election results in Poland, a deal that could relieve US sanctions on Venezuela, Pakistan's deportation order affecting Afghan refugees, and Australia's failed Indigenous Voice referendum. Then Tommy speaks with Melanie Ward, CEO of Medical Aid for Palestinians about the dire situation on the ground in Gaza for those needing medical attention.


S2023E47 - America's Warning to Israel Air Date: 25 October 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben discuss the latest news from Israel and Gaza including the staggering figures of over 5,000 civilians dead in Gaza, the slow pace of aid arrival, the release of four hostages, and they hear the experiences of a woman with five family members kidnapped by Hamas. They also talk about the emotional impact of Biden's visit to Israel compared to Netanyahu's response, media organizations correcting the record on the Gaza hospital strike, and the sanitization of war through language. In other news around the world, they touch on new audio from an Australian Billionaire who Trump leaked secrets to, elections in Argentina and Venezuela, a strike for gender equality in Iceland, and an update on the war in Ukraine. Then Ben speaks to Democratic Senator Chris Murphy about America's involvement in Israel and Gaza, public opinion in the US towards the conflict, and Senator Bob Mendendez.

We end the show with a new bi-weekly Q&A segment for subscribers.


S2023E48 - The Israeli Ground Invasion Begins Air Date: 01 November 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about the latest news out of Israel and Gaza, including the Israeli ground offensive, the death of over 3,000 children in Gaza, a rise in anti-semitic incidents around the world, and what a temporary ceasefire could achieve. Then they define some of the terminology being used to describe what's happening in this current conflict, the need for long-term thinking about what happens to the people in Gaza, blood thirsty and misguided solutions from GOP Presidential candidates, extremist attacks in Niger, and a lifetime ban for Luis Rubiales from FIFA. Then Tommy speaks with Ayman Mohyeldin, the host of Ayman on MSNBC, who spent years reporting in Gaza, to give context on what life was like there before the war and how Hamas controls all aspects of social and professional life.


S2023E49 - One Month of War Between Israel and Hamas Air Date: 08 November 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben talk about where the world stands one month after Hamas' attack on Israel, including the declaration from Gaza's health ministry that 10,000 civilians have been killed, Netanyahu's statement about Israel taking "indefinite" security responsibility in Gaza, Biden's push for a pause in fighting, and the successes and fails of American diplomacy thus far. They also discuss growing calls in Congress for a ceasefire, dismal approval ratings for Biden from Muslim voters and anti-war feelings from younger Americans, and reactions to Obama's comments on Israel and Gaza. Then they touch on Zelensky's attempts to keep the war in Ukraine on the world's radar, Pakistan's plan to deport up to 1.7 million Afghan migrants, and Boris Johnson's alleged offer to get injected with COVID-19 on television. Finally, Ben speaks with Jewish American author Nathan Thrall about his new book, "A Day in the Life of Abed Salama: Anatomy of a Jerusalem Tragedy", which documents the realities of life for Palestinians in the West Bank.


S2023E50 - Hospitals Under Siege in Gaza Air Date: 15 November 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben discuss the latest news out of Israel and Gaza, including the legality of targeting hospitals, French President Emmanuel Macron's call for a ceasefire, the growing divide between the US and Israel on long-term governance of Gaza, efforts to rescue the 240 hostages held by Hamas and militant groups, and first-hand accounts from two innocent people caught in the middle of this war. They also discuss the UK's cabinet shakeup and the return of David Cameron, the nightmare facing Afghans expelled from Pakistan, and the APEC Summit in California where Biden and Xi Jinping will meet. Then Tommy speaks with historian, professor and author Yuval Noah Harari about what it would take for Israel and Palestinians to reach a peace agreement, and there's a special surprise for Ben at the end.


S2023E51 - Climate Special: A Look Ahead At COP28 Air Date: 22 November 2023 12:00 -

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n a special episode, Tommy and Ben discuss the upcoming COP28 conference in the United Arab Emirates. They speak about the climate summit's importance, hear from activists from the Pacific Asian community, break down the science behind a 1.5 degree celsius warming, and the cynicism around the large presence of fossil fuel lobbyists and the host country's oil rich economy. Then, Ben speaks with John Kerry, the Special Presidential Envoy for Climate from the US, about what's on the agenda this year and the challenges of securing funding to follow through on the global commitments made towards mitigating climate change.

We end the show with a Q&A segment for subscribers.


S2023E52 - How Long Will The Ceasefire in Gaza Hold? Air Date: 29 November 2023 12:00 -

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Ben and Tommy discuss the ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas and how the US and Qatar helped broker it, Qatar's unique role in international diplomacy, the debate over conditioning US aid to Israel, what we know about the Palestinians being released from Israeli prisons, and Elon Musk's cynical trip to Israel. Then they cover right-wing populist election victories in the Netherlands and Argentina, reports that the US thwarted an attack on a Sikh separatist on American soil, leaked documents exposing the UAE's plans to use COP28 to sell more oil and gas, and former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro's run-in with a whale. Then Ben talks to Juliette Touma, Communications Director for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees, about humanitarian efforts in Gaza and what she witnessed on her recent visit there.


S2023E53 - Henry Kissinger's Complicated Legacy Air Date: 06 December 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben discuss the latest news from Gaza, including Israeli forces moving into southern Gaza, the Biden administration's shift from a "hug Bibi" strategy to publicly criticizing Israel, and the ongoing skirmishes between the US military and Iranian proxy forces. They also talk about the latest controversies and accomplishments at the COP28 climate summit, how the UAE is fueling the civil war in Sudan, a US ambassador turned Cuban spy and the complicated, but mostly terrible, legacy of Henry Kissinger. Then Tommy interviews Vermont Senator Peter Welch about why he's calling for a ceasefire in Gaza and what's going on with Biden's supplemental funding bill for Israel and Ukraine.


S2023E54 - Zelensky's Plea To Congress Air Date: 13 December 2023 12:00 -

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Tommy and Ben discuss the dire humanitarian situation on the ground in Gaza and the disconnect between the Biden administration's words and deeds when it comes to protecting civilians in Gaza, including the veto of a UN Security resolution calling for a ceasefire and additional weapons sales to Israel. They also discuss Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky's visit to Washington and plea for more security assistance, and republican efforts to tie Ukraine funding to border security, the mess at the UN's climate summit, a territorial dispute between Venezuela and Guyana, a masked mystery candidate running for president in Ghana and Elijah Wood's Russian propaganda blunder on Cameo. Then, Max Fisher joins the show to discuss trends in global elections in 2023, and how 2024 may be the biggest election year in history.

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